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Info-Hams Digest            Mon, 11 Apr 94       Volume 94 : Issue  404

Today's Topics:
                       * SpaceNews 11-Apr-94 *
                           50 Ohm Repeater
      Any experience with doppler rdf (radio direction finders)?
                        Anyone Bicycle Mobile?
                            C91J QSL Info
                   Delivery Failure Report (2 msgs)
                              FCC Delays
                         FT-530 DC CONNECTOR
                         Ham radio in Germany
                  Kenwood TH-78A  *OR*  Yaesu FT-530
                      Low cost antenna required
                        more heinous thoughts
                      online repeater directory
                        WWV Antennas (2 msgs)

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Date: 11 Apr 94 16:05:43 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: * SpaceNews 11-Apr-94 *
To: [e-mail]

SB NEWS @ AMSAT $SPC0411
* SpaceNews 11-Apr-94 *


BID: $SPC0411


                               =========
                               SpaceNews
                               =========


                          MONDAY APRIL 11, 1994


SpaceNews originates at KD2BD in Wall Township, New Jersey, USA.  It is
published every week and is made available for unlimited distribution.


* NEW AO-13 SCHEDULE *
======================
Magnetorquing from attitude 180/0 to 230/-5 commenced on Apr 04 [Fri] 1810
UTC, orbit 4446/224, and continued for 8 perigees.  The new schedule
commenced on orbit 4452 MA 145 Apr 07 [Thu] 1120 UTC.

*** AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULE ***  1994 Apr 07-Jul 11
Mode-B  : MA   0 to MA 170 |
Mode-BS : MA 170 to MA 218 |
Mode-S  : MA 218 to MA 220 |<- S beacon only
Mode-S  : MA 220 to MA 230 |<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF
Mode-BS : MA 230 to MA 250 |        Alon/Alat 230/-5
Mode-B  : MA 250 to MA 256 |
Omnis   : MA 250 to MA 120 |  Move to attitude 180/0, Jul 11

NEW ATTITUDE - Note: The mean attitude for the period 1994 Apr 07-Jul 11
will be ALON/ALAT 230/0.  This is an Alon 10 degrees "better" than
originally proposed.  It is achieved at the expense of a 10 degree "worse"
Sun angle, which will will now reach 40 degrees (77% illumination)
May 30-Jul 11.  During that period the Mode-B transponder *might* have to
be OFF from MA 250-80 to conserve battery power.

Please don't rely on gossip and rumour!  Continuous up to date information
about AO-13 operations is always available on the beacons, 145.812 MHz or
2400.664 MHz in CW, RTTY and 400 bps PSK.  These bulletins are also posted
to Internet, ANS, Packet, PacSats etc, and many international newsletters.
A 400 bps PSK decoder is available from G3RUH and several DSP products;
display software P3C.EXE etc from many AMSAT groups.

The active command stations are listed below, and constructive feedback
about operations is always welcome.

  Peter   DB2OS  @ DB0FAU.#NDS.DEU.EU
  James   G3RUH  @ GB7DDX.#22.GBR.EU
  Graham  VK5AGR @ VK5WI.#ADL.#SA.AUS.OC

The above may also be reached via Internet ([e-mail]) and KO-23.
Please remember to state clearly a return address.

Notes prepared on behalf of, and in total cooperation with the above by:

James Miller G3RUH @ GB7DDX.#22.GBR.EU   1994 Apr 04 [Mon] 0600 UTC


* AMSAT NET VIA SATELLITE *
===========================
Bruce Paige, KB5ZRV, is the AMSAT Area Coordinator in Houston, Texas.  Bruce
runs a local AMSAT net that meets on the 147.100 MHz repeater every Tuesday
evening at 10:00 PM local Central Time.  The net is rebroadcast over the
Galaxy 3 satellite, Transponder 17 on a 5.8 MHz subcarrier.

This net is then received live and retransmitted by repeater operators
in Toronto, Canada, Anchorage, Alaska (3 repeaters), New England States
(6 repeaters), Ontario, CA, Lawton, OK, Indianapolis, IN, Fargo, ND.  It
has also been heard in Hawaii and other states.

The net has a telephone number for those that would like to ask questions
of the net or check in.  There are beginners segments that lasts 3-5
minutes, and explain how satellite novices can work various satellites,
describes different types of station equipment necessary to work satellites,
and other topics that beginners find useful in getting started in satellite
operations.  SAREX operating techniques have also been covered.

This net re-broadcast is free for the taking by those with TVRO ground
stations.  The people who run the net are having a great time and have
found many people are listening in that do not have AMSAT nets in their
local areas.

Any comments can be directed to Bruce via the Internet at [e-mail].


* FO-20 SCHEDULE *
==================
The FO-20 command station announced that FO-20 will be placed in Mode JA
(Analog transponder mode) during Field Day 1994 (25-Jun-94 18:00 UTC through
26-Jun-94 18:00 UTC).

The current operating schedule is as follows:

Analog mode:
    06-Apr-94 06:45 -to- 13-Apr-94 07:10 UTC
    20-Apr-94 07:35 -to- 27-Apr-94 07:55 UTC
    11-May-94 06:54 -to- 18-May-94 07:20 UTC

Digital mode:
    Unless otherwise noted above.

[Info via Kazu Sakamoto, JJ1WTK]


* FUJI AWARD INFORMATION *
==========================
Kazu Sakamoto, JJ1WTK, reports that a "Fuji" award is available to users
of the FO-20 satellite.  Applicants should have confirmed CW or SSB contacts
with 10 different amateur stations through the FO-20 Amateur Satellite.  A
fee of 8 IRCs or US $4 will be charged per award.  An additional 2 IRCs will
be charged for air mail delivery regardless of the number of the awards
claimed.  If QSL cards are submitted, sufficient funds for return postage
will also be required.

Correspondence should be sent to:
 Japan Amateur Radio League -- Award Desk
 1-14-2 Sugamo, Toshima, Tokyo 170, Japan


* SpaceNews BBS UPDATE *
========================
The SpaceNews packet radio BBS sponsored by Mario, KD6ILO, reported in last
week's issue of SpaceNews has changed frequency.  It can now be found
operating on 145.050 MHz.  The latest issue of SpaceNews, as well as other
AMSAT and satellite-related news and information can be found on this BBS.
The BBS is also linked to the UoSAT-OSCAR-22 satellite through the N7RSN
SatGate also located in Tacoma, WA.


* THANKS! *
===========
Thanks to all those who sent messages of appreciation to SpaceNews,
especially:

   K2UVG        VE3OZL          W4AT            ZR5JRS          VE7AHX


* FEEDBACK/INPUT WELCOMED *
===========================
Mail to SpaceNews should be directed to the editor (John, KD2BD) via any
of the following paths:

FAX      : [phone]
PACKET   : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA
INTERNET : [e-mail]  -or- [e-mail]

MAIL     : John A. Magliacane, KD2BD
           Department of Engineering and Technology
           Advanced Technology Center
           Brookdale Community College
           Lincroft, New Jersey  07738
           U.S.A.


       <<=- SpaceNews: The first amateur newsletter read in space! -=>>

/EX

--
John A. Magliacane, KD2BD   * /\/\ * Voice   : 1-908-224-2948
Advanced Technology Center  |/\/\/\| Packet  : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA
Brookdale Community College |\/\/\/| Internet: [e-mail]
Lincroft, NJ  07738         * \/\/ * Morse   : -.-  -..  ..---  -...  -..

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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:53:58 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!hippo.ru.ac.za!caesar.wits.ac.za!dlab167.ee.wits.ac.za![e-mail]
Subject: 50 Ohm Repeater
To: [e-mail]

I would like to about designing low cost band limited (10k-100k herz) 50 Ohm
Coaxial transistor repeaters.

Harshik

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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:49:14 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv![e-mail]
Subject: Any experience with doppler rdf (radio direction finders)?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Philip Kahn) writes:
>I have been reading up on doppler RDF's. The Amateur Radio Handbook
>has an article that says they can only do well to about 5 degrees.
>Have you heard of systems or ways to do it that gives better results?

Doppler systems theoretically can give better results than that, but
the practical limitations of precision antenna arrays, the switching
speed, precision reconstruction filters, and the radio's response all
conspire to reduce practical accuracy to around 5 degrees.

For best accuracy, you need to:

1) Space the antennas as precisely as possible in a square. For 5 degree
accuracy, spacing errors must be less than 1.3%, or about 0.24 inch at 2
meters. One degree accuracy would require array errors be held below 0.053
inch at 2 meters.

2) The higher the switching speed, the greater the doppler, and the easier
small angle changes are to measure. So you want to use as high a switching
rate as you can manage. This also relates to 3 and 4 below.

3) The reconstruction filter must accurately smooth the discrete antenna
switch samples to a sinusnoid so that the precise point of negative going
zero crossing can be determined. A 4 pole antenna array only gives 4
sample points to define the waveform. Theoretically that's enough, but
it's easier with an 8 or 16 antenna array.

4) The wider and flatter the phase bandwidth of the radio, the more precisely
it will pass the doppler shift information on to the resolver.

This latter is a problem when using typical ham receivers, so switch speeds
are typically held down to 2 kHz or less for a 4 pole array. This corresponds
to a rotational rate of 500 rps. A cumulative error of 0.27% in the array,
in the receiver passband phase response, in the reconstruction filter phase
accuracy, and in the resolver will allow a 1 degree readout accuracy. That's
tough to accomplish in practice.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

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Date: 11 Apr 1994 14:30:15 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Anyone Bicycle Mobile?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> Gilbert Baron,
[e-mail] writes:
>>I hope to be bicycle mobile on 2 meters this summer. Any suggestions on

>>equipment and antennas would be most welcome.
>>--
>>Michael J. Malloy                          Amateur Radio N9WJV
>>Medical College of Wisconsin               Compuserve 70334,3563
>>Milwaukee, Wisconsin                       Internet
[e-mail]

For both bicycle and motorcycle use I try to arrange it so
that all the gear is connected to me, with the possible
exception of the antenna (and there I prefer some kind
of quick disconnect that will pull free in a get off) That
way I don't have lots of tangles between me and the
bike, and the gear travels with me when I get off for
whatever reason.

Mostly I use an HT clipped someplace handy on the
jacket or whatnot - the best arrangement has
been a big pocket on the front of my jacket, or
with a strap that places it above my shirt pocket
area. On the bicycle I more often have it on my belt
toward the back since I don't sit as upright as on
the motocycle.

I prefer to use a headset when bicycling, and
a modified intercom headset when motorcycling.
Either plugs directing into a modified HS51
vox/ptt/tot box that I use in touch on touch off
mode (PTT ties up the hands too much, vox is
too unreliable - especially when spontaneously
'advising' cage drivers on their habits and
geneology :-)

On the bicycle I've used a hypodermic halfwave
built into a piece of pvc pipe hose clamped to the
uprights on my rear rack. Rather than folding back
the shield of the coax, I took some copper foil tape
and wrapped that around the outside of the coax for
the 1/4 wave going back down the coax and soldered
it to the shield. Sliding it inside the pvc changed the
tuning somewhat and it had to be trimmed down.

It's a real joy to go motocycling with a bunch of like
minded hams and chat all afternoon as we wend our
way amoung the Fingerlakes, occasionally hilltopping
back to the home repeater to check in with the
families. On the bicycle, it just adds a nice dimension
to be able to listen in as you crank away the miles,
even if you don't have enough air to join in on those
steep hills (I can't do *anything* else when I'm trying
to go up Buffalo St, Jeff :-).

73 de Kevin, WB2EMS

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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 17:06:56 GMT
From: worldbank.org![e-mail]
Subject: C91J QSL Info
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MIDN Vasily
Chistiakov (M970984)) writes:
>
>Does anyone know who the QSL manager for C91J is? Thanks
>
Try W8GIO - he handles cards for a lot of C9 stations. I heard rumor that he
will be relinquishing this post soon, so send the card before too long!

Good Luck, Darrell

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Date: 11 Apr 94 15:02:18 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Delivery Failure Report
To: [e-mail]

From:    NAME: Mail Postmaster
    FUNC:
    TEL:                                  <POSTMASTER AT A1 AT ANDV02>
To:    net%"[e-mail]"@RCVAX@MRGATE


    ALL-IN-1 was unable to deliver your message dated                     to
      ADAMS,SE                       - no such ALL-IN-1 account
    on node ANDV02

    The subject of the message was :
      Info-Hams Digest V94 #402

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Date: 11 Apr 94 16:03:04 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Delivery Failure Report
To: [e-mail]

From:    NAME: Mail Postmaster
    FUNC:
    TEL:                                  <POSTMASTER AT A1 AT ANDV02>
To:    net%"[e-mail]"@RCVAX@MRGATE


    ALL-IN-1 was unable to deliver your message dated                     to
      ADAMS,SE                       - no such ALL-IN-1 account
    on node ANDV02

    The subject of the message was :
      Info-Hams Digest V94 #403

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Date: 11 Apr 94 09:14:47 EST
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu!miavx1!miavx3.mid.muohio.edu![e-mail].
Subject: FCC Delays
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John K Scoggin Jr) writes:
> Anyone have a feel for how long licenses take to get from FCC Gettysburg?
> Last I heard it was 10 weeks :-(
>
> I passed my Tech this morning ( and bought some code practice stuff :-)
> The VEC said (jokingly, I hope!) that I could be up to 20 wpm by the time
> I see a license.
>
>     - John
>
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>

Good possibility ... if you study intently and learn quickly.  Oh, yes,
it's nice to be motivated as well.

Seriously John, congratulations on your achievement and welcome to the
wonderful world of ham radio.  Hope it is all you expect and more.

    73 >< Carl
      K8NHE

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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 12:11:48 -0500
From: yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com![e-mail]
Subject: FT-530 DC CONNECTOR
To: [e-mail]

Marsolais, Pierre <[e-mail]> writes:

>The part number for the connector is E-DC-6
>And Yeasu's phone number is [phone]

A propblem with the manual, i think, is that the plug is a 4mm
unit, not a 3.5, and there appears to be NO domestic source for these!

It looks like the molded unit for 6-8 bux is the only way to go..

does the 3.5mmm standard plug fit??

73

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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:17:10 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!jabba.ess.harris.com!news.ess.harris.com!su102w.ess.harris.com![e-mail]
Subject: Ham radio in Germany
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (x3670) writes:
>Path: news.ess.harris.com!jabba.ess.harris.com!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!news1.hh.ab.com!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!lieser
>From: [e-mail] (x3670)
>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
>Subject: Ham radio in Germany
>Date: 9 Apr 94 18:48:48 EST
>Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
>Lines: 13
>Distribution: inet
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: alf.cs.hh.ab.com


>Is the 2-meter band typically the most used band in Europe also
>(particularly Germany)?  I know that in Europe it only extends
>from 144-146MHz, while the 70cm band is much wider.  I had thoughts
>of taking a small rig while vacationing.  Does anyone have any
>experience with this?  (I could only hope that I'd pass the test
>and receive my license before September.)

>I've looked on various ftp sites in Finland and Germany and can't
>seem to find much info.  Also, we don't get 'de' groups here.

>Thanks,
>Ed Lieser
>Allen-Bradley Co., Cleveland, Ohio


I've done some hamming in Germany, and I have a good bit of info regarding
voice repeaters and packet nodes.  I have not tried to operate 440 (which is
between 430 & 440 MHz there -- not so easy with a 440 to 450 MHz US FM
rig...), but I know that there are a lot more 70cm repeaters than 2m ones.
The 2m systems are there are mostly wide-coverage machines, and near the big
cities, you can work at least a couple of them.  Out in the country,
especially in the hills, forget it.  An HT and a mag-mount antenna will be
adequate most places.

You also need to know that most of the systems require a 1750Hz toneburst to
access the repeaters.  You can buy one, just like a CTCSS encoder,
commercially from Comm. Specialists for about $25.  Or you can practice
whistling at the right frequency -- a lot of people do that too.

Be sure to file for a temporary license before you go.  The DARC seems to
respond pretty quickly to applications (a couple of weeks recently), but
there's no guarantee that they will.

I have some German repeater maps (old, but mostly still correct) and packet
node lists, if anyone needs them.
*Paul Anderson*    Phone: [phone], FAX: [phone]
Internet:     [e-mail]
Amateur Packet: AB4VA @ N5AUV.#MLBFL.FL.USA.NA

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Date: 11 Apr 94 17:27:05 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com![e-mail]
Subject: Kenwood TH-78A  *OR*  Yaesu FT-530
To: [e-mail]

Marc Richard Wollemborg <[e-mail]> writes:

>Has anybody tried both of the above radios and could tell me which of the two
>I should choose?  I hear the Kenwood is nice and small, has a great display,

Marc,
Both of these radios is nice and has very useable features.
Any dual-bander will experience some intermod and adjacent channel
interference, especially ones that cover extended spectrum like
the TH78.  I have a 78 and my dad has a 530, so i have been able to
compare them side by side.  I think that both get hammered by
RF ("intermod"...) equally, and both get good/excellent audio and
signal reports.  Each manages power well, and the 530 does a
higher-tech job by controlling power use diuring rx/tx... i mean
transcieve.  The thing that i do not like babout the 530 is
that the VFO setup is not flexible.  You can only transmit @M
2 meter on the left and 44 on the right.  You can  program 2M on the
440 side and VV, but not transmit from them...
The 78 gives you the ability to reacall and use any memory
frequency on either side.  Eaach VFO will transcieve on both bansds
and they work equally well.  You only have to program each frequency (with all
associated info, tomne, etc...) once, and you can recall it from
either VFO.

This may seem picky, but i think that it is a big difference.  Either
rig will get you on both bands in good style, but those Yaesu
ads only tell you part of the differences.

Oh yeah, the 530 does do PL scan, but the repeater has to be
pretty clear, very active during the scan, and pass the PL
tone through to the output, and not all do.

Good Luck.

Pete, N1QDQ

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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:10:04 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz![e-mail]
Subject: Low cost antenna required
To: [e-mail]

: In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
: >
: >I require some info on designing a low cost antenna to rural communities
: >where signal levels are fairly low. Thus a low cost outdoor antenna is
: >required.

: What frequency?

Are the signals coming from one direction only?  What existing structures
can support the antenna?  (Often the support is as expensive as the antenna.)
How far apart are receiver and transmitter?

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Date: 11 Apr 94 16:47:17 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!access3![e-mail]
Subject: more heinous thoughts
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Dan Ostroy ) writes:
>Why do you assume that.  If I am an infrequent checkin on your
>net, and my third listing is for McLean VA, would you know
>who I am?

As net control, I would say, "The station listing
traffic for McLean, VA say your callsign only. Over."

It's called good operating technique, something which
is sadly lacking these days.

--

rec.nude: your exit to good living along the Information Toll Road.
finger [e-mail] for PGP key and an operator will help you.
How 'bout them Os!!

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Date: 11 Apr 94 16:55:39 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!access3![e-mail]
Subject: online repeater directory
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Conway Yee) writes:
># Universal and Free Listing of Repeaters for Radio Amateurs
># The file format (version 0.3) shall be as follows.  Consider this file
># 14         input frequency of the repeater (MHz or standard offset: + or -)
>#            The use of +,- may have to be deleted in the future if this
>#            repeater directory is extended to other countries that have
>#            differing standard offsets.

Delete +/- now. Going back later to figure out what the
"standard" offset was meant at the time the info
was contributed will be a pain.

--

rec.nude: your exit to good living along the Information Toll Road.
finger [e-mail] for PGP key and an operator will help you.
How 'bout them Os!!

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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:45:30 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv![e-mail]
Subject: WWV Antennas
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Cecil A Moore) writes:
>>> But WWV is using just vertical dipoles (not phased, as with WWVH). There
>>> are certainly higher gain antennas than a dipole that will still retain
>>> an omnidirectional `orientation'.  Jeff NH6IL
>>
>>Hello again, Jeff.  My point is that one cannot change the gain of an
>>antenna system without changing the radiation pattern.  In that
>>process, while Hawaii may enjoy an increase in signal level,
>>Arizona may suffer a decrease in signal level.  Who's going to
>>be forced to suffer because of the antenna system change?
>
>Cecil: Compare a 1/4 wave ground plane to a 5/8 wave gp: both have
>omnidirectional patterns but the 5/8 wave gives you a lower angle
>of radiation, providing a certain `gain' over the 1/4 wave gp.
>
>WWV wants omnidirectional coverage; there are antennas that would
>give a lower take-off angle than a vertical dipole and still provide
>this coverage. Right?

WWV wants coverage to as much of the US as possible. Lowering the
takeoff angle will widen the skip zones where WWV will not be heard.
Low angle only radiation is not what's wanted for maximum coverage.
What's wanted is radiation at all takeoff angles that will support
refraction back to Earth. That minimizes the size of the skip zones.
That's why they use a vertical dipole pattern. Low angle radiation is
only useful for DXing. WWV is not in the DX game.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

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Date: 11 Apr 1994 16:42:02 GMT
From: ncar!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ssd.intel.com!chnews!scorpion.intel.com![e-mail]
Subject: WWV Antennas
To: [e-mail]

In article <2o9qst$[e-mail]>,
Ken A. Nishimura <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I think that people are applying 2-D thinking to a 3-D
>world.  There are two main ways of getting "gain", both
>of which involve concentrating power in one direction
>at the expense of another.

Yeah:

   (1) Gain in the azimuth plane.
   (2) Gain in the elevation plane.

>WWVH uses what is known
>as a broadside or endfire (can't remember which it was
>from the description) array of vertical dipoles to create
>a pattern, which when viewed from above, appears to
>concentrate its power to the west.

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Date: (null)
From: (null)
>However, there is another way to concentrate power, which
>is what most FM broadcast stations do.  If you look at
>a single dipole vertically oriented, you will see that it
>has a omni pattern viewed from above.  Fine.  If you
>now view it from the ground, a lot of power goes up into the air,
>some of it at nearly 90 degrees to the ground.  (An ideal
>dipole has a null at 90 deg.)

If you look closely at the elevation patterns of a vertical dipole,
you will find that there isn't that much power above 45 degrees.

>Now, recall what you learned
>about HF propogation.  Power that is sent nearly straight
>up has a much lower chance of skipping (being refracted) than
>one with a low angle of incidence.

That depends on the frequency and condition of the ionosphere.
Below a certain frequency, called the critical frequency, a
signal at vertical incidence to the ionosphere is reflected.
That frequency typically ranges from 2 to 10 MHz.

>Thus, that power is most likely
>being wasted.  A stacked dipole of proper phasing (two dipoles
>on top of another) can use constructive interference to put more
>power closer to the horizon rather than up in the air.
>This puts more power into the low angles of incidence which are
>much more likely to be refracted and/or reflected back down
>to earth.

The question I have for you is: Reflected back to where on the
earth???

>  Note, however, that the omni pattern as viewed
>from above is NOT disturbed.  This is how one gets "omni"
>gain.  FM broadcasters do this to put as much power as
>possible into the horizon.  Not much advertising potential high
>up in the air.....

This is true for VHF space wave propagation on the earth's surface.
It is not necessarily true for sky wave propagation at HF.

>Ken

Jim, W5GYJ

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